For anyone also thinking about getting a similar setup: The orange handle is only in the way of the original bar lever, not the upgrade three-spoke lever that Andreas shows. For a drill, I am using one from Metabo because it has the speed dial on top of the machine, as opposed to being integrated into the trigger.
Thanks for this tip - I hadn’t thought of this. You’re right, with the new wheel I could use the handle which is much easier to tighten than the star knob.
I would choose the Bosch GSB 21-2 RCT drill for the press. It has the same nice speed wheel on the top (900-3000 rpm) instead of integrated in the switch from this 19-2 and with 1300 Watt more than powerful enough for everything. So If you are in the blue camp...there are also similar solutions.
Danke Andreas für das Video und dein Statement zum Webaco Bohrständer. Wenn ich bis dato noch ein wenig unschlüssig war, mir dieses Gerät zuzulegen, hast Du meine „Bedenken“ gerade ausgeräumt. Noch mal meinen Dank dafür.
Hi Andreas, Thank you so much for your review. Thanks to it I ordered my wabeco stand, received it some weeks ago from Germany and now I'm working and very happy with it. Greetings from California!
Halo Andreas! Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with your drill press setup. For the beginning to intermediate woodworking enthusiasts, this tool has many advantages for a wide range of projects. One big advantage, it seems, is the depth it distance between the support post and drill bit. Please keep up the videos.
Ich habe auch einen Wabeco Bohrständer, allerdings ohne die radiale Verstellmöglichkeit im Horizontalen. Deine Lösung ist für das, was in den meisten DIY-Shops an Arbeit zu leisten ist, absolut ausreichen, eigentlich sogar, weil sehr flexibel, DAS was man braucht. Vorausgesetzt man hat noch eine elektrische Bohrmaschine im Fundus. Danke fürs Teilen und Vorstellen.
Very cool setup Andreas. I can already think of a couple of projects this would be perfect for. You could alway mount an outlet with an on/off switch behind it or mount a power strip on the side or bottom of the cabinet to the right of your drill press. Or make an NVR or Magnetic power switch which kills power on start up if the power goes out.
Dafür gibt es auch noch eine zusätzliche Spannvorrichtung. Die wird zuerst eingespannt und darin dann die Maschine. Dadurch ist die Maschine dann parallel zur Achse und du kannst die Kurbel für den Vorschub nutzen und musst nicht das Werkstück schieben, wie im Video. www.wabeco-remscheid.de/catalog/product/view/id/6133/s/spannvorrichtung-fuer-horizontale-bohrmaschinenaufnahme/
Hallo Andreas, what you have there, this construction, is called a radial drillpress. In your case of course a very little one. For a beginner in workshopping is this a cheap and good solution. The time will show, in which direction it goes on. Good compilation of your thoughts!
Hallo Andreas, ich habe deine Vorstellung des WABECO mit Interesse angesehen. Ich selbst habe in den letzten Wochen ein solches "uncharming" Monster (BF 1240, ca. 20 Jahre alt) reaktiviert und einen (bis jetzt provisorischen) Bohrtisch dazu gebaut. Dafür habe ich dann ein Super-Luxus-Fräswerk demontiert und entsorgt, das bei allem wuchtigen Aussehen doch an relevanten Stellen sehr popelig und unterdimensioniert konstruiert war. Mit dem WABECO bin ich für das, was ich so mache, äusserst zufrieden. Jetzt werde ich noch, so wie von dir gezeigt, einige Inbus-Schrauben gegen Sterngriff oder Rast-Hebelschraube austauschen. Gruß aus dem Ländle, und dicken Daumen nach oben Hans-Joachim
Hey Andreas, noch'n Gedicht: Dein Bohrtisch macht mich richtig an. Wäre das nicht mal Gelegenheit, diesen in seinen Einzelheiten in einem Video nachvollziehbar vorzustellen? Gruß Hans-Joachim
Das wäre eine Idee. Ich schau mal, wann das reinpassen würde. Allerdings findest Du auch viele Gute woanders, wenn Du zügig Ideen suchst. Bohrtisch oder Drill Press Table als Suchbegriffe.
Hello Andreas! In my opinion, this is the best choice for an average budget ! I've spent 170 euro instead of 300 euro for a Bosch PBD 40(country of origin: Romania). Is not the same thing, but it`s ok ;-) Good choice! Congrats!!! ;-)
It looks well made for a relatively low-cost and portable unit. If I were you, I would tie or clamp on the drill's switch to the On position, and use a footswitch to start/stop the drill.
That is one cool setup, Andreas! Perfect would look out of place in my shop anyway. I had not seen something like this before - all those that use a drill tend to be more flimsy. I think this might be a reason for me to look into upgrading my old drill press. Then again, after over 15 years, I think it has paid off the 99 € I paid for it at the discounter... Thanks for sharing!
Andreas, for your drill press, is there such an item available to you similar to this unit I have here in Canada. It is a foot switch which plugs into the power outlet, you then plug your drill into the back of that plug. With this device, you can lock your drill trigger ON and use the foot switch to turn ON or OFF the drill.
I have big problem with the housing having lateral rotation play. There are 2 eccentric set screws that can be adjusted to remove it. However after adjusting everything perfectly with no play, after some usage there will be play again. And the adjustment is a huge pain because after you tighten the nuts they will undo anything you did with just the eccentric set screws. And even then if all play is removed then the spring wont work properly. I am wondering if the column I have is defective or if you have the play too and just don't care about it?
@@ondrejkolbl I screwed the vertical clamping screws tigther, so that it still moves but barely, then I adjusted the play removers. My vertical clamping screws were completely loose which was the problem.
@@holzhandwerk_ak Thanks, I am for sure going to get one of those when I am read to buy this type of tool. A lot of the conventional plunge drills here in the UK are just not worth the money and I am talking about ones that cost twice to 4 times these models, plus I prefer German made products.
Hi Andreas, j tried the links for the Wabeco fixture, but it’s coming up as 404 error?? I wasn’t really sure where to look. One of the other links that you left had very similar fixtures, but I did not see the Wabeco. Thank you!
I don’t understand the question. Do you mean horizontal? Because in the video you see me making a vertical hole. Or does the word borehole mean something specific?
@ I want to ask if the drilled hole is vertical and perpendicular or skewed (please refer to the clip) ruclips.net/user/clipUgkx89PCJvQzKBkpPqjuGeLinGxY0rjjJI1H?si=_sYZfr91vzCOd_ku
Das sind Aluprofilschienen eines anderen Herstellers, die ich - glaube ich - mal auf eBay gekauft habe. Hier habe ich sie her: www.easy-systemprofile.de/product_info.php/info/p294_nutplatte-15×120-nut-8.html www.easy-systemprofile.de/product_info.php/info/p306_innenwinkel-nut-6.html Und hier kannst Du sie in Aktion sehen: holzhandwerk.andreas-kalt.de/unterkonstruktion-kuechentheke/
Okay, danke. Die Frässchablone steht auch auf meiner Projektliste. Ich hatte die mal hier gefunden: bastian-diekoetter.blogspot.com/2015/06/frasschablone.html Allerdings hat der wohl die gleiche Konstruktion wie du. Übrigens funktioniert der Link auf deiner HP zu Tom Breitkopf nicht.
Ja, entweder habe ich die Idee von Bastian oder von Tom ;-) - Der Link funktioniert schon, nur hat Tom (wohl wegen der DSGVO) sein Blog auf privat geschaltet.
Hallo Andreas, schöner Review. Ich wollte mal horchen ob sich bei langzeit Erfahrung und Betrachtung des Marktes auch schon andere Bohrmaschinen empfehlen lassen. Ich höre oft und auch sehr gutes von der GSB 21, allerdings hätte ich schon vor, preislich noch etwas niedriger zu schlagen, wenn es geht. Eine Alternative war die Einhell TE Id 1050/1. Die scheint auch einen guten Rundlauf zu haben. Die GSB liegt derzeit leider bei stolzen 200 Tacken nahezu das doppelte
Good review Andreas I have the woolfcraft stand and it has been ok but I have never been happy about the deflection ( I'm talking about the axial deflection around the column not the vertical deflection that you would get on the X column on the Wabeco stand). When the drill first makes contact with the workpiece you can actually see the carriage twist on the main column which can lead to inaccuracy. How is the Wabeco stand compared to this
Hallo Andreas, ich stehe gerade vor dem Kauf eines Wabeco Bohrständers und bin mir bei der Säulenhöhe noch unschlüssig. Du hast wohl die 750mm Variante - würdest du diese wieder so für dich kaufen oder hätten dir wohl auch 500mm vertikal gereicht? Würde mich über deine kurze Rückmeldung freuen - danke und viele Grüße vom Bodensee, Michael
Hallo Michael, bisher habe ich die volle Höhe noch nie gebraucht - insofern würden wohl 50 cm auch reichen. Zumal man ja notfalls bei höheren Werkstücken den Ständer auch schwenken und das Werkstück dann neben den Tisch positionieren könnte.
@@holzhandwerk_ak Alles klar, vielen Dank für deine schnelle Rückmeldung. Die Idee mit dem Drehen und Positionieren des Werkstücks neben dem Tisch ist ein prima Argument, die kleinere Variante zu bestellen. Somit ist meine Entscheidung gefallen - danke dir nochmals! 👍😊
Hello Andreas, Thank you for sharing your experience with this product. I was wondering if there is a way to adjust the angle of the drill in case this is not vertical with the surface of the material you are drilling? Regards,
Hi Christos. The clutch that holds the drill has very little play so that you can adjust the angle of the drill ever so slightly and then tighten the clutch.
I wish I had seen this before I bought a drill press.... The impractical switch can be fixed in the ON-position and the drill switched on with a NVR-switch on the bench front, not only more practical, but also safer. In this case I would choode a drill with speed selection on top
I find it to be precise enough. I can’t give you a margin of error and it is problably not as sturdy as a real drill press but I have never had any problems drilling precise holes.
Hi Paul, you can find a link to your local amazon here: kit.com/holzhandwerk_ak/my-drill-press-drill-mount - apart from that the manufacturer is called Wabeco: ak-u.de/wm
I don’t turn it down too much - fast speed makes for cleaner holes. It is somewhat loud (and high-pitched) but I usually wear hearing protection anyway.
I'm using a basic Metabo drill press stand. My shop is very small and I'm also just starting out. So like you I went for flexibility. And again like you, I'm running into the same niggles. I really don't like to use the allen wrench all the time for hight adjustment. Where did you get these nice orange handles?
Have a look here: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/catalog/category/view/s/drill-stands-and-accessories/id/104/?cat=246&limit=30 That’s the manufacturer. Depending on where you live they might be able to ship to your place or tell you a dealer in your area.
@@lanenunez8225 On their website it says: "There are some countries we do not supply among others AU and USA. For these countries, we are happy to forward your request to our representative or we will give you the address of our representation." Sounds like it shouldn't be a problem to have one delivered to the US.
Hallo Andreas! Der größte Vorteil den dein Setup hat ist das du die Bohrmaschine auch vor und zurück bewegen kannst , das bei einer Ständerbohrmaschine nicht möglich ist . Große Nachteile sehe ich nicht außer vielleicht das du keine genaueren Drehzahlen voreinstellen kannst bei deinem Setup. Grüße und Danke für das Video!
Lieber Andreas! Sehr informatives und professionelles Video! Ich denke der Wabeco Bohrständer ist vom Preis/Leistungsverhältnis für den ambitionierten Heimwerker und Hobbybastler ein gutes Produkt. Ich überlege mir diesen zu erwerben. Die Frage ist nur in welcher Auslegung? Welche ist hier empfehlenswert? Liebe Grüße aus dem kalten und verschneiten Österreich 🇦🇹🌨❄️,Werner
Hallo Werner, danke für die positive Rückmeldung. Ich habe den Bohrständer mit 75 cm Säule und 50 cm Ausleger. Das schien mir eine gute Kombination zu sein: flexibel genug, ohne dass es übertrieben viel Platz braucht (v.a. der Ausleger muss ja irgendwo hinragen). Evtl. reicht auch ein kürzerer Ausleger, kommt halt darauf an, was Du für Arbeiten planst. Hier ist mein Setup mit den konkreten Produkten: kit.com/holzhandwerk_ak/my-drill-press-drill-mount - das sind affiliate Links. Wenn Du darüber kaufst, kostet es für Dich den regulären Preis und ich bekomme einen kleinen Anteil am Umsatz. Wabeco hat aber über den direkten Verkauf gerade Weihnachtssonderpreise: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/media/content/Download/Ausstellungsmaschinen/Weihnachtsaktion%202017-1.pdf
Lieber Andreas! Vielen Dank für die rasche Rückmeldung und für die weitere Information hinsichtlich Zubehörteile rund um diesen Bohrständer. Bleibt nur noch dir und den deinigen alles Liebe und eine schöne Weihnachtszeit zu wünschen, liebe Grüße aus Österreich 🎄❄️
I paid about 160 EUR for the model with the 75 cm column and the 50 cm arm. Wabeco itself sell it for about that price at the moment (Christmas special): ak-u.de/v6 - here are their shipping costs: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/info-lieferung
It works here, just tested it. Anyway, here’s another try: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/drill-stands-and-accessories/drilling-stands-milling-stands/bf1243-column-750-mm-bracket-500-mm/bohrstaender-fraesstaender-bf1243.html
Moin. ich hadere grad mit mir, ob ich das Teil kaufen soll. Man liest (gerade in jüngster Zeit) recht viel über Ungenauigkeiten und schlechte Verarbeitung. Du scheinst ja nicht das Problem gehabt zu haben?
Ich bin bisher damit zufrieden. Eine Sache muss man beachten: Man muss die verschiedenen Schrauben korrekt zuziehen: zu locker und das Ding hat Spiel, zu fest und man kann einzelne Elemente nicht mehr bewegen. Evtl. kommt da der Eindruck her, es sei ungenau (wenn Leute die Schrauben zu locker haben).
Great corded drill precision stand if you reside in the EU or England. If you live in the US though it’s near impossible. With COVID-19 I can’t even get to my bank to assist me in making the transaction.
Ich kann mich Andreas nur anschließen, aber er hat etwas ganz Wichtiges nicht erwähnt: Der Ständer eignet sich in Verbindung mit einem Fräsmotor auch hervorragend zum Fräsen! Viele Arbeiten gehen damit viel besser als mit einem Frästisch von der Hand. Ich habe meinen Frästisch eingemottet und fräse fast nur noch so. Komischerweise habe ich noch keinen RUclipsr gefunden, der das auch macht.
I do not agree that this is a less elegant solution that is not perfect in it's handling.. And also it is not just an affordable solution. I have just sold my Contimac drill press which I found less than perfect. Handling of the Wabeco is just as difficult or easy as any run of the mill drill press. Especially when you change out a few alan bolts with levers and knobs. Next most drill presses are belt driven. If you exert force the belt tends to slip. A regular drill with enough power - like your Bosch - won't do that. Also the capacity of an equally high drill press (75 cm in my case) is far less thant the capacity of the Wabeco. You can even fixate the Wabeco to a table with clamps and move the drill so you can put your workpeace on the ground.which will extend the hight by another 80 cm or so. Limitless possibilities.Also all drill presses lack the horizontal movement option. A set up like this is a good investment as most diy-ers already have a hamer drill with similar capacity to your Bosch. A Metabo in my case. Last but not least this set up is far more transportable than any decent drill press. Professionals can easily stick the Wabeco in their van and take it to the job site. Etc. etc. etc. So maybe less elegant (which is in the eye of the beholder) but faaaaar more versatile and cost effective if you already own a decent hamer drill..
Thanks Andreas. I like flexibility and I don't care about the looks! About the drill trigger, I'll just tighten it with steel band and plug the drill cord to a wall socket with an on/off button. My only concern is about the drill speed. I have an old and cheap B&D, not very flexible in usage and obviously it wouldn't be very smart to buy a new drill just to put it in a drill press. So, what about drilling in metal or other cases when a slower speed would be better? Installing a variable speed command would add to the cost and somehow defeat the whole idea of economy.
Hi Andreas I am planning to buy that drill press. I also have very simple solution for your drill switch problem, I have made one for myself, very easy to make and you can even control speed of your drill I can send you photo, let me know if you are interested. Thanks for the nice review, cheers. Best regards Eddie
@@holzhandwerk_ak Don't get me wrong. I am going to buy one. And it will be extra expensive for me, as they don't have any US distributors. And it will cost almost 100 Euros to ship! So, it will be almost 300 Euros for the unit, the Y and Z axis handles, and US shipping. And while I do have some drills, I don't really have any that is good for this application. I'm getting a Metabo which is about another 250 Euros. So, about 550 Euros total. Lots of drill presses can be bought for less. But, this will do things an average drill press can't.
could be good drilling sensbile tolereances. I want to see that how it work when under press. when you move head then i can see how is shake. Don't looking stabil. I don't know. Price/Perfomance is not make me happy what i see.
forse la colonna esagonale garantisce minori spostamenti (a sinistra e a destra) durante il movimento del trapano, che soprattutto alla massima estensione del braccio orizzontale potrebbero essere rilevanti. Maibe the hexagonal column ensures less movement during the movement of the drill, which at maximum extension of the horizontal arm could be relevant.
The ability to rotate the drill lost me. Now I want a third column. I want the depth stop plunge removed from the main column and a 100mm plunge added to a third column that has a lockable geared rotation at the drill end of the horizontal column. There is no point in having a depth stop plunge on the main column if the drill is at 45 degrees. However, it did me the service of convincing me to hold off on buying the Mafell drill stand while I hope for something better.
Wabeco are making this in china with very bad quality, I have D4000 Lathe that they could not repair in 5 years, after multiple part replacements they kept sending me same faulty parts. So if after 5 years company sends you faulty part what do this mean? Do the math yourself.
![Bosch PBD 40 Drill Press First Look [video 597]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/x6C0KYBjxLs/mqdefault.jpg)
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For anyone also thinking about getting a similar setup: The orange handle is only in the way of the original bar lever, not the upgrade three-spoke lever that Andreas shows.
For a drill, I am using one from Metabo because it has the speed dial on top of the machine, as opposed to being integrated into the trigger.
Thanks for this tip - I hadn’t thought of this. You’re right, with the new wheel I could use the handle which is much easier to tighten than the star knob.
That is the reason why i will use a Makita HP2071J .... but also thought a long time about the Metabo SBEV 1000-2
Would you recommend the Makita HP2071J over the Bosch 19-2 RE drill? I need to buy a new drill and I need it to be powefull enough.
I would choose the Bosch GSB 21-2 RCT drill for the press. It has the same nice speed wheel on the top (900-3000 rpm) instead of integrated in the switch from this 19-2 and with 1300 Watt more than powerful enough for everything. So If you are in the blue camp...there are also similar solutions.
@@kayf8738 Another great advantage over regular drillpresses, where you have to change the belt for different speeds.
Danke Andreas für das Video und dein Statement zum Webaco Bohrständer. Wenn ich bis dato noch ein wenig unschlüssig war, mir dieses Gerät zuzulegen, hast Du meine „Bedenken“ gerade ausgeräumt. Noch mal meinen Dank dafür.
Hi Andreas,
Thank you so much for your review. Thanks to it I ordered my wabeco stand, received it some weeks ago from Germany and now I'm working and very happy with it.
Greetings from California!
I’m glad to hear that you found the video useful! Happy woodworking!
ein tolles gerät! ich bin auch stolzer besitzer dieser kombination. andreas dein erklährvideo ist super geworden. herzlichen dank👍
Danke Lukas! Freut mich, dass es Dir gefällt.
Halo Andreas! Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with your drill press setup. For the beginning to intermediate woodworking enthusiasts, this tool has many advantages for a wide range of projects. One big advantage, it seems, is the depth it distance between the support post and drill bit. Please keep up the videos.
Thanks a lot Richard!
Ich habe auch einen Wabeco Bohrständer, allerdings ohne die radiale Verstellmöglichkeit im Horizontalen. Deine Lösung ist für das, was in den meisten DIY-Shops an Arbeit zu leisten ist, absolut ausreichen, eigentlich sogar, weil sehr flexibel, DAS was man braucht. Vorausgesetzt man hat noch eine elektrische Bohrmaschine im Fundus. Danke fürs Teilen und Vorstellen.
Danke für Deinen Kommentar, Appi!
Very cool setup Andreas. I can already think of a couple of projects this would be perfect for. You could alway mount an outlet with an on/off switch behind it or mount a power strip on the side or bottom of the cabinet to the right of your drill press. Or make an NVR or Magnetic power switch which kills power on start up if the power goes out.
Thanks for your tips. I’m already planning a change/extension to my power outlets and will then rearrange the drill press as well.
That is exactly what I did for my wabeco + Bosch drilling machine and for the Bosch 1400 ace router and home made router table.
Good video, thanks
Many thanks Michael
thanks for show and review that one, it was so important
Thanks. I’m glad you found it useful.
Wirklich gutes Setup.
Danke fürs Zeigen
Gerne. Danke fürs Anschauen!
Nice review Andreas & I agree fully about the recommendations you’ve suggested on the pros & cons of drill presses 👍
Thanks Sumo!
hey, i noticed when you adjust or turn the handle it shook terribly, is there a horrible play? could you measure if you still own it
Das man die Bohrmaschine auch waagerecht spannen kann das finde ich ist das beste an diesem Bohrständer
Daumen hoch und danke für dein Video
lg TroppY
Danke fürs Anschauen, Troppy!
Dafür gibt es auch noch eine zusätzliche Spannvorrichtung. Die wird zuerst eingespannt und darin dann die Maschine. Dadurch ist die Maschine dann parallel zur Achse und du kannst die Kurbel für den Vorschub nutzen und musst nicht das Werkstück schieben, wie im Video.
www.wabeco-remscheid.de/catalog/product/view/id/6133/s/spannvorrichtung-fuer-horizontale-bohrmaschinenaufnahme/
Hallo Andreas, what you have there, this construction, is called a radial drillpress. In your case of course a very little one. For a beginner in workshopping is this a cheap and good solution. The time will show, in which direction it goes on. Good compilation of your thoughts!
Thanks for clearing this up, Alfred. At the moment, it works fine in most cases but I sometimes wish I had a proper drill press.
Danke. In der aktuellen Maschinen im Modellbau ist auch ein kleiner Test
Nice movie. What size is your drill press? Some links do not work anymore.
It’s 75 cm height withe 50 cm arm. I’ve fixed the broken link.
no word how sturdy it is? how much flex has it ?
It is very sturdy. Very little flex in the depths stop, though.
Good vid Andreas, I enjoyed that. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Mark! You’re welcome!
Wow... klasse Video und interessanter Bohrständer.
Danke Ralf!
Hallo Andreas, ich habe deine Vorstellung des WABECO mit Interesse angesehen. Ich selbst habe in den letzten Wochen ein solches "uncharming" Monster (BF 1240, ca. 20 Jahre alt) reaktiviert und einen (bis jetzt provisorischen) Bohrtisch dazu gebaut. Dafür habe ich dann ein Super-Luxus-Fräswerk demontiert und entsorgt, das bei allem wuchtigen Aussehen doch an relevanten Stellen sehr popelig und unterdimensioniert konstruiert war. Mit dem WABECO bin ich für das, was ich so mache, äusserst zufrieden. Jetzt werde ich noch, so wie von dir gezeigt, einige Inbus-Schrauben gegen Sterngriff oder Rast-Hebelschraube austauschen.
Gruß aus dem Ländle, und dicken Daumen nach oben
Hans-Joachim
Danke Hans-Joachim. Freut mich!
Hey Andreas, noch'n Gedicht: Dein Bohrtisch macht mich richtig an. Wäre das nicht mal Gelegenheit, diesen in seinen Einzelheiten in einem Video nachvollziehbar vorzustellen?
Gruß Hans-Joachim
Das wäre eine Idee. Ich schau mal, wann das reinpassen würde. Allerdings findest Du auch viele Gute woanders, wenn Du zügig Ideen suchst. Bohrtisch oder Drill Press Table als Suchbegriffe.
Andreas Kalt
Dank dir. Das werde ich tun. Schönen Sonntag
Hans-Joachim
Thanks for the review, i am going to order one too
You’re welcome.
Hello Andreas! In my opinion, this is the best choice for an average budget ! I've spent 170 euro instead of 300 euro for a Bosch PBD 40(country of origin: Romania). Is not the same thing, but it`s ok ;-) Good choice! Congrats!!! ;-)
Thanks for your feedback!
Yes, it is. I have one
Nice review, Andreas. Thanks for sharing! (Y)
Thanks for your comment!
Great review. What are the diameters and lengths of the bolts that you replaced?
I don’t remember and can’t find them at the moment. Sorry.
It looks well made for a relatively low-cost and portable unit. If I were you, I would tie or clamp on the drill's switch to the On position, and use a footswitch to start/stop the drill.
Thanks Bob, that’s an excellent idea!
Yes I was thinking the same. It would give you a little added safety as well just in case.
That is one cool setup, Andreas! Perfect would look out of place in my shop anyway. I had not seen something like this before - all those that use a drill tend to be more flimsy. I think this might be a reason for me to look into upgrading my old drill press. Then again, after over 15 years, I think it has paid off the 99 € I paid for it at the discounter... Thanks for sharing!
You’re welcome Dominic. Glad you like it.
very interesting indeed!
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Andreas, for your drill press, is there such an item available to you similar to this unit I have here in Canada. It is a foot switch which plugs into the power outlet, you then plug your drill into the back of that plug. With this device, you can lock your drill trigger ON and use the foot switch to turn ON or OFF the drill.
I’ve seen such foot switches that work for all kinds of machines. That’s a great idea. Thanks John.
I have big problem with the housing having lateral rotation play. There are 2 eccentric set screws that can be adjusted to remove it. However after adjusting everything perfectly with no play, after some usage there will be play again. And the adjustment is a huge pain because after you tighten the nuts they will undo anything you did with just the eccentric set screws. And even then if all play is removed then the spring wont work properly. I am wondering if the column I have is defective or if you have the play too and just don't care about it?
I have exactly same experience. Did you somehow managed it?
@@ondrejkolbl I screwed the vertical clamping screws tigther, so that it still moves but barely, then I adjusted the play removers. My vertical clamping screws were completely loose which was the problem.
Great useful stuff.
Thanks, glad you like it.
hi, what model is it you have? there are several. thanks in advance
I have the 75 cm vertical bar and 50 cm horizontal bar
@@holzhandwerk_ak Thanks, I am for sure going to get one of those when I am read to buy this type of tool. A lot of the conventional plunge drills here in the UK are just not worth the money and I am talking about ones that cost twice to 4 times these models, plus I prefer German made products.
Hi Andreas, j tried the links for the Wabeco fixture, but it’s coming up as 404 error?? I wasn’t really sure where to look. One of the other links that you left had very similar fixtures, but I did not see the Wabeco. Thank you!
Hi, I’ve fixed the broken link.
Can it create a vertical borehole?
I don’t understand the question. Do you mean horizontal? Because in the video you see me making a vertical hole. Or does the word borehole mean something specific?
@ I would like to ask about the accuracy of the drill lines, is it vertical or is it off to the left, right, front or back?
I’m sorry, I still don’t understand. What do you mean by off? Off from what reference point?
@ I want to ask if the drilled hole is vertical and perpendicular or skewed (please refer to the clip)
ruclips.net/user/clipUgkx89PCJvQzKBkpPqjuGeLinGxY0rjjJI1H?si=_sYZfr91vzCOd_ku
0:25 im Hintergrund die Albprofile an der Wand. Ist das die zerlegte Festool Frässchablone oder ein Eigenbau?
Das sind Aluprofilschienen eines anderen Herstellers, die ich - glaube ich - mal auf eBay gekauft habe. Hier habe ich sie her:
www.easy-systemprofile.de/product_info.php/info/p294_nutplatte-15×120-nut-8.html
www.easy-systemprofile.de/product_info.php/info/p306_innenwinkel-nut-6.html
Und hier kannst Du sie in Aktion sehen: holzhandwerk.andreas-kalt.de/unterkonstruktion-kuechentheke/
Okay, danke. Die Frässchablone steht auch auf meiner Projektliste. Ich hatte die mal hier gefunden: bastian-diekoetter.blogspot.com/2015/06/frasschablone.html
Allerdings hat der wohl die gleiche Konstruktion wie du. Übrigens funktioniert der Link auf deiner HP zu Tom Breitkopf nicht.
Ja, entweder habe ich die Idee von Bastian oder von Tom ;-) - Der Link funktioniert schon, nur hat Tom (wohl wegen der DSGVO) sein Blog auf privat geschaltet.
Hallo Andreas, schöner Review.
Ich wollte mal horchen ob sich bei langzeit Erfahrung und Betrachtung des Marktes auch schon andere Bohrmaschinen empfehlen lassen. Ich höre oft und auch sehr gutes von der GSB 21, allerdings hätte ich schon vor, preislich noch etwas niedriger zu schlagen, wenn es geht.
Eine Alternative war die Einhell TE Id 1050/1.
Die scheint auch einen guten Rundlauf zu haben.
Die GSB liegt derzeit leider bei stolzen 200 Tacken nahezu das doppelte
Hallo Sebastian. Ich habe leider keine Erfahrung mit anderen Maschinen. Beste Grüße,
Andreas
Good review Andreas I have the woolfcraft stand and it has been ok but I have never been happy about the deflection ( I'm talking about the axial deflection around the column not the vertical deflection that you would get on the X column on the Wabeco stand).
When the drill first makes contact with the workpiece you can actually see the carriage twist on the main column which can lead to inaccuracy.
How is the Wabeco stand compared to this
Mine has no deflection on contact with the workpiece. And you can actually adjust how rigidly it runs on the bars.
Hallo Andreas, ich stehe gerade vor dem Kauf eines Wabeco Bohrständers und bin mir bei der Säulenhöhe noch unschlüssig. Du hast wohl die 750mm Variante - würdest du diese wieder so für dich kaufen oder hätten dir wohl auch 500mm vertikal gereicht? Würde mich über deine kurze Rückmeldung freuen - danke und viele Grüße vom Bodensee, Michael
Hallo Michael, bisher habe ich die volle Höhe noch nie gebraucht - insofern würden wohl 50 cm auch reichen. Zumal man ja notfalls bei höheren Werkstücken den Ständer auch schwenken und das Werkstück dann neben den Tisch positionieren könnte.
@@holzhandwerk_ak Alles klar, vielen Dank für deine schnelle Rückmeldung. Die Idee mit dem Drehen und Positionieren des Werkstücks neben dem Tisch ist ein prima Argument, die kleinere Variante zu bestellen. Somit ist meine Entscheidung gefallen - danke dir nochmals! 👍😊
Hello Andreas,
Thank you for sharing your experience with this product. I was wondering if there is a way to adjust the angle of the drill in case this is not vertical with the surface of the material you are drilling? Regards,
Hi Christos. The clutch that holds the drill has very little play so that you can adjust the angle of the drill ever so slightly and then tighten the clutch.
I wish I had seen this before I bought a drill press....
The impractical switch can be fixed in the ON-position and the drill switched on with a NVR-switch on the bench front, not only more practical, but also safer. In this case I would choode a drill with speed selection on top
Hello from Italy. Hi Andreas, Is the column precise when drilling the wood or does the tip tend to slip? what is the margin of error?
I find it to be precise enough. I can’t give you a margin of error and it is problably not as sturdy as a real drill press but I have never had any problems drilling precise holes.
thanks a lot
Hi Andreas,
Where can I buy this?
Please give me more information about the drill stand manufacturers.
Thanks very much.
Paul
Hi Paul, you can find a link to your local amazon here: kit.com/holzhandwerk_ak/my-drill-press-drill-mount - apart from that the manufacturer is called Wabeco: ak-u.de/wm
Is this gen 3 or gen 3.5?
I don’t know.
So with that particular drill, I assume you turn the speed right down for general wood working? (5 to 10mm holes) ... is it still very loud?
I don’t turn it down too much - fast speed makes for cleaner holes. It is somewhat loud (and high-pitched) but I usually wear hearing protection anyway.
I'm using a basic Metabo drill press stand. My shop is very small and I'm also just starting out. So like you I went for flexibility.
And again like you, I'm running into the same niggles. I really don't like to use the allen wrench all the time for hight adjustment.
Where did you get these nice orange handles?
I found them on eBay. In German they’re called „Klemmhebel“ (clutching lever, clamping lever).
I’m trying to buy this but I can’t find it on amazon???
Have a look here: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/catalog/category/view/s/drill-stands-and-accessories/id/104/?cat=246&limit=30 That’s the manufacturer. Depending on where you live they might be able to ship to your place or tell you a dealer in your area.
Im in the USA they won’t ship it to the United States smh
Sorry to hear it.
@@lanenunez8225 On their website it says: "There are some countries we do not supply among others AU and USA. For these countries, we are happy to forward your request to our representative or we will give you the address of our representation." Sounds like it shouldn't be a problem to have one delivered to the US.
The only other thing that would be nice with this press is if the column tilted also. I would love to have one of these in Canada!
Hallo Andreas! Der größte Vorteil den dein Setup hat ist das du die Bohrmaschine auch vor und zurück bewegen kannst , das bei einer Ständerbohrmaschine nicht möglich ist . Große Nachteile sehe ich nicht außer vielleicht das du keine genaueren Drehzahlen voreinstellen kannst bei deinem Setup. Grüße und Danke für das Video!
Danke. Die Drehzahl kann man an der Bohrschmaschine regulieren, nur halt nicht auf die genaue Zahl.
Wie stabil ist der voll ausgezogene Ausleger?
Stabil genug, um problemlos in Holz zu bohren bei sehr geringem Spiel.
Wow it's a good drill , if you can make one for me how much will cost me thanks for your video and your time. Greetings from Arlington, Texas!
I didn’t make it myself. It's by German manufacturer Wabeco, details here: kit.com/holzhandwerk_ak/my-drill-press-drill-mount
Here's a working link:
www.wabeco-remscheid.de
So, Hammer - ärgere mich gerade über den Kauf den PBD-40 - die Limits werden mit der Wabeco völlig aufgehoben, Danke Andreas für's herzeigen !!!
Gerne. Danke für Dein Feedback.
One important thing is to use a drill with adjustable speed regulation - sometimes you wanna drill *slow* .
Yes. Correct.
Lieber Andreas! Sehr informatives und professionelles Video! Ich denke der Wabeco Bohrständer ist vom Preis/Leistungsverhältnis für den ambitionierten Heimwerker und Hobbybastler ein gutes Produkt. Ich überlege mir diesen zu erwerben. Die Frage ist nur in welcher Auslegung? Welche ist hier empfehlenswert? Liebe Grüße aus dem kalten und verschneiten Österreich 🇦🇹🌨❄️,Werner
Hallo Werner, danke für die positive Rückmeldung. Ich habe den Bohrständer mit 75 cm Säule und 50 cm Ausleger. Das schien mir eine gute Kombination zu sein: flexibel genug, ohne dass es übertrieben viel Platz braucht (v.a. der Ausleger muss ja irgendwo hinragen). Evtl. reicht auch ein kürzerer Ausleger, kommt halt darauf an, was Du für Arbeiten planst. Hier ist mein Setup mit den konkreten Produkten: kit.com/holzhandwerk_ak/my-drill-press-drill-mount - das sind affiliate Links. Wenn Du darüber kaufst, kostet es für Dich den regulären Preis und ich bekomme einen kleinen Anteil am Umsatz. Wabeco hat aber über den direkten Verkauf gerade Weihnachtssonderpreise: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/media/content/Download/Ausstellungsmaschinen/Weihnachtsaktion%202017-1.pdf
Lieber Andreas! Vielen Dank für die rasche Rückmeldung und für die weitere Information hinsichtlich Zubehörteile rund um diesen Bohrständer. Bleibt nur noch dir und den deinigen alles Liebe und eine schöne Weihnachtszeit zu wünschen, liebe Grüße aus Österreich 🎄❄️
Danke Werner - das Gleiche wünsche ich Dir auch!
Hab auch lange überlegt ob Bosch PHB40 oder Wabeco + Makita HP2071J .... ich werd mir immer sicherer, das der Wabeco das Richtige für mich ist!
Would you recommend the Makita HP2071J over the Bosch 19-2 RE drill? I need to buy a new drill and I need it to be powefull enough.
Und, hast du die Makita genommen? Sie hat ja kein Einhandbohrfutter, funktioniert das trotzdem?
What did you pay for it Andi? Amazon.de has so many variants.
I paid about 160 EUR for the model with the 75 cm column and the 50 cm arm. Wabeco itself sell it for about that price at the moment (Christmas special): ak-u.de/v6 - here are their shipping costs: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/info-lieferung
Andreas Kalt Thanks Andi, the first link doesn‘t work however. No probs, can find it myself :-)
It works here, just tested it. Anyway, here’s another try: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/drill-stands-and-accessories/drilling-stands-milling-stands/bf1243-column-750-mm-bracket-500-mm/bohrstaender-fraesstaender-bf1243.html
Andreas Kalt Still doesn‘t work. Don‘t worry, probably has something to do with my iPad....
Probably. The first one is Short enough that you can type it yourself. That should work.
Moin.
ich hadere grad mit mir, ob ich das Teil kaufen soll. Man liest (gerade in jüngster Zeit) recht viel über Ungenauigkeiten und schlechte Verarbeitung. Du scheinst ja nicht das Problem gehabt zu haben?
Ich bin bisher damit zufrieden. Eine Sache muss man beachten: Man muss die verschiedenen Schrauben korrekt zuziehen: zu locker und das Ding hat Spiel, zu fest und man kann einzelne Elemente nicht mehr bewegen. Evtl. kommt da der Eindruck her, es sei ungenau (wenn Leute die Schrauben zu locker haben).
Da magst du recht haben. Immerhin hatte H. Rech auch mal so eine (auch wenn er sie inzw. nicht mehr besitzt). Danke für die schnelle Antwort!
👍👍👍Cool.
Thank you!
Great corded drill precision stand if you reside in the EU or England. If you live in the US though it’s near impossible. With COVID-19 I can’t even get to my bank to assist me in making the transaction.
All the best to you Robert! Stay safe!
Ich kann mich Andreas nur anschließen, aber er hat etwas ganz Wichtiges nicht erwähnt: Der Ständer eignet sich in Verbindung mit einem Fräsmotor auch hervorragend zum Fräsen! Viele Arbeiten gehen damit viel besser als mit einem Frästisch von der Hand. Ich habe meinen Frästisch eingemottet und fräse fast nur noch so. Komischerweise habe ich noch keinen RUclipsr gefunden, der das auch macht.
Kannst Du das mal irgendwo zeigen (RUclips, Instagram, evtl. auch ein Foto oder Video per Mail). Das klingt sehr interessant.
Welchen Fräsmotor benutzt Du denn dafür??
Thank you very much for the professional review. I was just wondering about the amount of flex that you have to deal with in this setup, any thoughts?
There is not much flex at all. All components are very sturdy and can be tightened into position if needed so that they don’t give.
I do not agree that this is a less elegant solution that is not perfect in it's handling.. And also it is not just an affordable solution. I have just sold my Contimac drill press which I found less than perfect. Handling of the Wabeco is just as difficult or easy as any run of the mill drill press. Especially when you change out a few alan bolts with levers and knobs. Next most drill presses are belt driven. If you exert force the belt tends to slip. A regular drill with enough power - like your Bosch - won't do that. Also the capacity of an equally high drill press (75 cm in my case) is far less thant the capacity of the Wabeco. You can even fixate the Wabeco to a table with clamps and move the drill so you can put your workpeace on the ground.which will extend the hight by another 80 cm or so. Limitless possibilities.Also all drill presses lack the horizontal movement option. A set up like this is a good investment as most diy-ers already have a hamer drill with similar capacity to your Bosch. A Metabo in my case. Last but not least this set up is far more transportable than any decent drill press. Professionals can easily stick the Wabeco in their van and take it to the job site. Etc. etc. etc. So maybe less elegant (which is in the eye of the beholder) but faaaaar more versatile and cost effective if you already own a decent hamer drill..
Thanks for your feedback!
Thanks Andreas. I like flexibility and I don't care about the looks! About the drill trigger, I'll just tighten it with steel band and plug the drill cord to a wall socket with an on/off button. My only concern is about the drill speed. I have an old and cheap B&D, not very flexible in usage and obviously it wouldn't be very smart to buy a new drill just to put it in a drill press. So, what about drilling in metal or other cases when a slower speed would be better? Installing a variable speed command would add to the cost and somehow defeat the whole idea of economy.
My drill has a wheel and to control the speed. I gather your drill doesn’t have that? In this case I suppose you have to go with single speed
Hi Andreas
I am planning to buy that drill press. I also have very simple solution for your drill switch problem, I have made one for myself, very easy to make and you can even control speed of your drill I can send you photo, let me know if you are interested. Thanks for the nice review, cheers.
Best regards
Eddie
Hi Eddie, sure - send that photo along. You’ll find my contact address on the channel info page or contact me via Instagram (@holzhandwerk_ak)
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Thank you.
Well, it is flexible. But it’s not really that cheap. You keep saying how affordable it is, but it is more expensive than a lot of drill presses.
Of course, it depends on the quality of the drill press. Also, I was assuming that you already own the drill.
@@holzhandwerk_ak Don't get me wrong. I am going to buy one. And it will be extra expensive for me, as they don't have any US distributors. And it will cost almost 100 Euros to ship! So, it will be almost 300 Euros for the unit, the Y and Z axis handles, and US shipping. And while I do have some drills, I don't really have any that is good for this application. I'm getting a Metabo which is about another 250 Euros. So, about 550 Euros total. Lots of drill presses can be bought for less. But, this will do things an average drill press can't.
Good basic drill presses are cheap .I only paid 199 dollars for my 14 inch. Works great for both wood and metal and one of my most used tools.
could be good drilling sensbile tolereances. I want to see that how it work when under press. when you move head then i can see how is shake. Don't looking stabil. I don't know. Price/Perfomance is not make me happy what i see.
Per essere perfetto bastava fare esagonale anche la colonna!
Perché?
forse la colonna esagonale garantisce minori spostamenti (a sinistra e a destra) durante il movimento del trapano, che soprattutto alla massima estensione del braccio orizzontale potrebbero essere rilevanti.
Maibe the hexagonal column ensures less movement during the movement of the drill, which at maximum extension of the horizontal arm could be relevant.
The ability to rotate the drill lost me. Now I want a third column. I want the depth stop plunge removed from the main column and a 100mm plunge added to a third column that has a lockable geared rotation at the drill end of the horizontal column. There is no point in having a depth stop plunge on the main column if the drill is at 45 degrees. However, it did me the service of convincing me to hold off on buying the Mafell drill stand while I hope for something better.
👍 香港 無代理！
Habe auch etwas dazu gebaut: ruclips.net/video/zNXS_CaWhOs/видео.html
Wabeco are making this in china with very bad quality, I have D4000 Lathe that they could not repair in 5 years, after multiple part replacements they kept sending me same faulty parts. So if after 5 years company sends you faulty part what do this mean? Do the math yourself.
Don’t know about today’s models but mine is good quality.
@@holzhandwerk_ak I bought mine in a little more then 5 years ago, and even now same faulty parts.
Kann mir jemand sagen, wie ich diesen Bohrständer nach Mexiko bringen kann ??? Bitte!!
You might ask the manufacturer for options: www.wabeco-remscheid.de/contact